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PostSubject: Underground Smoker   2015-10-04, 13:18

Is this a common glitch of some addon or this just rarely happens because of the game mechanics?

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PostSubject: Re: Underground Smoker   2015-10-04, 13:36

Hi Weishen!

i think this is rarelly glitch coused by mechanics, something like using fast commands in momment when spawning. If this is common glitch attached for this level like -charger glitch no mercy- i think everybody will be know for that and use it.
Popular glitch: brake in saferoom, charger can move machine in exit from elevator ( no mercy, level before final)

But this is only my opinion, lets see what other will be commented

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PostSubject: Re: Underground Smoker   2015-10-04, 20:17

If it was even glitch, he shouldnt use it. If it happened 1 time - not a big deal, if it happened 2-3-4 or more times - he must be banned for sure.
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PostSubject: Re: Underground Smoker   2015-10-04, 20:19

Kotory wrote:
If it was even glitch, he shouldnt use it. If it happened 1 time - not a big deal, if it happened 2-3-4 or more times - he must be banned for sure.

From my point, this is first time seen, and all guys wondering that...
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PostSubject: Re: Underground Smoker   2015-10-04, 22:14

No, this wasn't an actual attempt to ban the player. It's just something I wanted pointed out and looked at. My apologies for posting the topic in the Left 4 Dead discussion, didn't pay attention.
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PostSubject: Re: Underground Smoker   2015-10-04, 22:20

That's funny.  Smile

Let's clarify some things:

  • Cheater is the gamer who using external .exe and/or .dll injectors in order to get advantage over other players.*

  • Glitcher is the gamer who is abusing broken assets of the game/server/plugin in order to get atvantage over other players.**

*This category deserves a VACation and a permanent ban. Period._

**Any glitcher in any game and/or server DOES NOT deserve a permanent ban or a VAC (since they don't using external programs to perform those, of course). When the developers and/or server owners see those glitches being popular or not they should FIX IT instead of banning players who using broken assets of their game and/or server.

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Now back to topic:

To me... he look like a glitcher. We all have see, many times when a server is running the moving smoker plugin to move and hide behind walls, doors, rooms etc. without the tongue being cuted.

Or...

There is someone with admin rights who is going no clip and hiding there. xD
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PostSubject: Re: Underground Smoker   2015-10-05, 18:54

Wei Shen wrote:
My apologies for posting the topic in the Left 4 Dead discussion, didn't pay attention.
No problem.
I've moved the topic to Versus server forum.
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PostSubject: Re: Underground Smoker   2015-10-05, 18:55

Nestor wrote:
When the developers and/or server owners see those glitches being popular or not they should FIX IT instead of banning players who using broken assets of their game and/or server.
And what to do when there is no fix?
Shut down the server?
I would prefer to ban the exploiters.
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PostSubject: Re: Underground Smoker   2015-10-05, 19:00

There is hundreds of glitches - if valve didn't fix it - nobody can handle it.
Some glitches like "through the door teleportation" more funny than annoying in my opinion, but bullshit like in this video shouldn't be allowed
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PostSubject: Re: Underground Smoker   2015-10-05, 20:07

alBert2000 wrote:
Nestor wrote:
When the developers and/or server owners see those glitches being popular or not they should FIX IT instead of banning players who using broken assets of their game and/or server.
And what to do when there is no fix?
Shut down the server?
I would prefer to ban the exploiters.

In this case i think this is first time happend, because if this is common glitch, i guess Grandmaster will be use this ewerytime in game.

Next funny thing is in No Mercy, level before final, when guys must call elavator. At top of building, where is baustelle and walls with half made knauf, there is one agregat machine. I see guy with charger how move this to exit of elevator. So survivors cannt go out from it. I try allone to se what this is, and you must charge 20 times to -maybe- sucess.
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PostSubject: Re: Underground Smoker   2015-10-05, 20:11

Kotory wrote:
There is hundreds of glitches - if valve didn't fix it - nobody can handle it.
Some glitches like "through the door teleportation" more funny than annoying in my opinion, but bullshit like in this video shouldn't be allowed

Guy who do that is not experienced player here, so i guess this happend by fault to him. This is something like in no mercy-final, 2ce i see tank stuck in sky on top of world.
or something when you pull survivor with smoker, and you become tank, and tank cannt move or walk because of invisible barieer. This also happend werry rarrely.
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PostSubject: Re: Underground Smoker   2015-10-06, 01:55

are tricks I do , that of hacensor at No Mercy , I saw it on video , so I ise if haci tricks are done, but that has something wrong?
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PostSubject: Re: Underground Smoker   2015-10-06, 01:59

here the minute 0:37 see a trick

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PostSubject: Re: Underground Smoker   2015-10-06, 17:44

brucex wrote:
are tricks I do , that of hacensor at No Mercy , I saw it on video , so I ise if haci tricks are done, but that has something wrong?

Dear GrandMaster,
i think with hacensor in no mercy is everything ok, because on some other servers i see charger can move almost all objects, and people with charger moving cars (not like tank, only meter or two)
Can you tel me did you see before smoker from ground hunt survivors?

Estimado GrandMaster,
Creo que con hacensor en ninguna misericordia es todo muy bien, ya que en algunos otros servidores que veo cargador puede mover casi todos los objetos y las personas con cargador de coches en movimiento (tanque no similares, solamente metros o dos)
¿Puedes tel me hiciste ver antes de fumador de los sobrevivientes caza suelo?

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PostSubject: Re: Underground Smoker   2015-10-06, 18:20

a ok , pues lo del smoker no puedo nose ni como hacer pero si lo e visto muchas veces

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PostSubject: Re: Underground Smoker   2015-10-10, 10:26

Only want say; hi to all from Tesaloniki!!!
Im in Nestors realm cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Underground Smoker   2015-10-10, 18:47

myljach wrote:
Only want say; hi to all from Tesaloniki!!!
Im in Nestors realm cheers

Nice, have fun mate! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Underground Smoker   2015-10-10, 19:35

Hey Nessy!
For now its not fun only work, but if you ever go in Tesaloniki, In shoping center Outlet - something, and go in Cinema One, i was making Audio and 3drealD in rooms no 5,6, and 7. JBL sound and Barco screen projectors. alien alien
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PostSubject: Re: Underground Smoker   2015-10-11, 04:24

hello a question at 1:20 minutes in alserv wrong ?

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PostSubject: Re: Underground Smoker   2015-10-11, 04:25

That is forbidden ?
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PostSubject: Re: Underground Smoker   2015-10-11, 04:26

So. Now i know exactly that "underground smoker" is so called "trick" and people use this glitch intentionally not cuz of random bug.
It should not be allowed in my opinion, cuz it breaks balance in the game - if survivor alone he doesn't have even chance to survive.
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PostSubject: Re: Underground Smoker   2015-10-11, 13:08

Kotory wrote:
So. Now i know exactly that "underground smoker" is so called "trick" and people use this glitch intentionally not cuz of random bug.
It should not be allowed in my opinion, cuz it breaks balance in the game - if survivor alone he doesn't have even chance to survive.

Hello Kotory,

My opinnion is that brucex ask for something symilar to smoker underground. Difference is, original is 1st time recorded from weishens video, first time happend, and it is a glitch.
But second clip from brucex/grandmaster post is symilar clip from other server from youtube, bt same level, and he ask is this alloved in alserv. If he tink on smoker pull from uper level of stadium, i think its ok, because place for smoker or spitter is free to enter in, and is no glitch. Only survivor cant enter in, and that is symilar like no entry for survivors like bee on zop of building, over the fence, etc.
Btw in this final stage of carnival, infected ussualy have small chance to win, because no olace to hide.

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PostSubject: Re: Underground Smoker   2015-10-11, 15:46

I put the video is that minute, if I do it in alserv esta wrong?
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PostSubject: Re: Underground Smoker   2015-10-11, 15:50

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minute 1:20 , I put the video is that minute, if I do it in alserv esta wrong?

please give me an answer
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PostSubject: Re: Underground Smoker   2015-10-11, 15:54

brucex wrote:
I put the video is that minute, if I do it in alserv esta  wrong?

No, my opinion is that is not wrong. If we speaking about smoker after 1,20 pull survivor from storage blocked room.
This is restricked area for survivors, alloved for infected, like alley across the wall in some different levels.
Please, confirmation from someone else, im in distant land on cellphone, help this kid for answer!
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